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Old 09-05-2009   #1
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Obama. Serious business.

1. Obama himself attended socialist conferences in the 1980's and lectured his family after attending these conferences.

"He went to socialist conferences at Cooper Union and African cultural fairs in Brooklyn and started lecturing his relatives until they worried he'd become "one of those freaks you see on the streets around here." "

Source: New York Daily News:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007...e_stu ns_.html

2. Obama attended meetings with the "Chicago Democratic Socialists of America"

From their website: "Our mission is to establish democratic socialism as a political force in the United States and around the world by training and mobilizing socialist activists to participate in a vibrant and diverse socialist organization at both the local and the national level."

In 1996 Barack Obama attended one of their meetings:

"Over three hundred people attended the first of two Town Meetings on Economic Insecurity on February 25 in Ida Noyes Hall at the University of Chicago. Entitled "Employment and Survival in Urban America", the meeting was sponsored by the UofC DSA Youth Section, Chicago DSA and University Democrats. The panelists were Toni Preckwinkle, Alderman of Chicago's 4th Ward; Barack Obama, candidate for the 13th Illinois Senate District; Professor William Julius Wilson, Center for the Study of Urban Inequality at the University of Chicago; Professor Michael Dawson, University of Chicago; and Professor Joseph Schwartz, Temple University and a member of DSA's National Political Committee."

"A true welfare system would provide for medical care, child care and job training. While Barack Obama did not use this term, it sounded very much like the "social wage" approach used by many social democratic labor parties. "

Source: Chicago Democratic Socialists Website:
Chicago Democratic Socialists of America
New Ground 45 - Chicago Democratic Socialists of America

3. Obama Endorses Bernie Sanders, the only openly socialist senator in the US Senate.

Obama endorsing Sanders: YouTube - Bernie and Barack Address Overflow Crowd

"Sanders is the first self-described socialist to be elected to the U.S. Senate."
Bernie Sanders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Source: Obama Himself:
YouTube - Bernie and Barack Address Overflow Crowd

4. Obama Speaks at Socialist Leader Saul Mendelson's Funderal

From the Chicago DSA Website: "Saul Mendelson - You joined the Socialist movement at the age of 18. You chaired the Socialist Club at the University of Chicago. You taught and inspired students at DuSable High School. You fought in the civil rights struggles with the NAACP, with CORE, and with the Negro American Labor Council. You have held fast to your belief in democratic socialism."

"At the memorial service held at the 1st Unitarian Church on South Woodlawn, speaker after speaker recounted Saul's contributions. The service was ably MC'd by a retired colleague, Bob Clark. I spoke first and was followed by Saul's friend Deborah Meier, a MacArthur Genius Grant recipient who is now starting a new school in Boston. Amy Isaacs, National Director of the ADA, spoke of what Saul had meant on foreign affairs to the ADA. Other speakers included Senator Carol Moseley Braun, Alderman Toni Preckwinkle, State Senator Barak Obama, Illinois House Majority Leader Barbara Flynn Currie and a good friend from New York, Myra Russell. The concluding remarks were made by an old friend, Harriet Lefley, who is now Professor of Psychology at the University of Miami Medical School."

Source: Chicago Democratic Socialists Website:
New Ground 58 - Chicago Democratic Socialists of America

5. The Chicago Democratic Socialists Endorsed Obama

Chicago DSA Endorsements in the March 19th Primary Election

Barack Obama

Source: Chicago Democratic Socialists Website:
New Ground 45 - Chicago Democratic Socialists of America

6. Obama Campaign Worker Seen With Communist Cuba Flag Depicting Marxist Che Guevara on it. Other Obama supporters "Che" Sympathizers

For those of you who don't know who Che Guervara is:

"Guevara later served as Minister of Industries, in which post he helped formulate Cuban socialism"
"Guevara played a key role in bringing to Cuba the Soviet nuclear-armed ballistic missiles that precipitated the Cuban Missile Crisis in October 1962. During an interview with the British newspaper Daily Worker some weeks later, he stated that, if the missiles had been under Cuban control, they would have fired them against major U.S. cities."

Che Guevara - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Source: Lone Star Times:
LST identifies Obama’s Che Moonbat : Lone Star Times

7. Obama Wants to Normalize Relations with Communist/Socialist Cuba

Source: Obama Himself:
YouTube - Barack Obama: Cuba policy
(This pizzed off a lot of Cuban Americans that fled from Communist Cuba)

8. Obama's mother attended classes in high school where there was a member of the Communist party on the school board. 2 teachers that highly influenced her life taught about Communism and Marxism.

"In 1955, the chairman of the Mercer Island school board, John Stenhouse, testified before the House Un-American Activities Subcommittee that he had been a member of the Communist Party.
At Mercer High School, two teachers -- Val Foubert and Jim Wichterman -- generated regular parental thunderstorms"
""I had them read 'The Communist Manifesto,' and the parents went nuts," said Wichterman"
"For Stanley Ann, the teachings of Foubert and Wichterman provided an intellectual stimulant"

"Obama called his mother "the dominant figure in my formative years. . . . The values she taught me continue to be my touchstone when it comes to how I go about the world of politics."

Source: Chicago Tribune
http://www.chicagotribune.c om/news/...9.story?page=1

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eh you all think what you want.. send your kids to school tuesday for the socialist indoctrination... then in 20 years when they are doctors and all make the same amount of money and work for the government and your dying and cant get into the hospital because its so full, THEN you'll remember this post...
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eh you all think what you want.. send your kids to school tuesday for the socialist indoctrination... then in 20 years when they are doctors and all make the same amount of money and work for the government and your dying and cant get into the hospital because its so full, THEN you'll remember this post...
do you mean like all the uninsured now???? or more like in 20 years when you have no clue whats going to happen???? and if my daughter becomes a doctor and wont heal someone cause of MONEY then i failed but that like you say in 20years so whats your point??? and people die all the time cause the govermant or the state wont help them.....or do you mean like the people that have insurance now and have cancer but thier insurance companies wont pay???? i'll remember this post as lacking in cause or fight cause your arugment kinda sucks....
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It's just the fear of a black president.
And WAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY too much Fox News.
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And WAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY too much Fox News.
lol color or gender is not a factor.... nor is Fox News... except in a recent maxim magazine fox news was rated as having the highest number of hot chicks....

PBS came in last

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do you mean like all the uninsured now???? or more like in 20 years when you have no clue whats going to happen???? and if my daughter becomes a doctor and wont heal someone cause of MONEY then i failed but that like you say in 20years so whats your point??? and people die all the time cause the govermant or the state wont help them.....or do you mean like the people that have insurance now and have cancer but thier insurance companies wont pay???? i'll remember this post as lacking in cause or fight cause your arugment kinda sucks....
Obama knows he cannot sway a whole country in 4 years, so he targets future generations...it is a very well known political tactic around the world. And tell me levy, do YOU have a clue what will happen in 20 years? And the hippocratic oath states that money should never be an option. Survival of the fittest is how the world has been and always will be, and no one is going to change that, and when you fuck with nature, only negative consequences ensue.

I work in a society where ALL the doctors work for the government. I broke six ribs and punctured a lung a year ago, and i had to WAIT in the ER because it was so fucking full of people that were late for walk-ins, wanted a sick slip, or wanted to skate from work, and the ER was the only place you were allowed to go for all that shit.

If you for ONE second believe that a government run health care is going to change the economy or what not, think again. The government has to get money somehow, so for every person that goes and gets their government healthcare 6 times a week because they "dont feel good", that is 6 trips that we the taxpayers will have to pay for...

I hope your starting to see my point a little bit.

Socialist societies DO NOT WORK. It has been proven in the past and that fact stands.
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Survival of the fittest is how the world has been and always will be, and no one is going to change that, and when you fuck with nature, only negative consequences ensue.

I work in a society where ALL the doctors work for the government. I broke six ribs and punctured a lung a year ago, and i had to WAIT in the ER because it was so fucking full of people that were late for walk-ins, wanted a sick slip, or wanted to skate from work, and the ER was the only place you were allowed to go for all that shit.
Wait...you broke 6 ribs and punctured a lung. Do you know what happens to someone that breaks six ribs and punctures a lung in a "survival of the fittest" scenario? They get eaten by the next animal than can outrun their gimpy, lame ass.

And on another note...i'm uninsured. If i ended up breaking six ribs and puncturing a lung i'd either be dead from asphyxiation or i'd be broke for 20 years while i paid off my medical bills. Hmmm...waiting in an ER for 2 hours while in agonizing pain or living in poverty for the next 20 years...tough choice.

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If you for ONE second believe that a government run health care is going to change the economy or what not, think again. The government has to get money somehow, so for every person that goes and gets their government healthcare 6 times a week because they "dont feel good", that is 6 trips that we the taxpayers will have to pay for...

I hope your starting to see my point a little bit.

Socialist societies DO NOT WORK. It has been proven in the past and that fact stands.
Guess what...people already go to the ER/urgent care 6 times a week because they "don't feel good" or they want to "skate" from work. While you may not be paying for those trips through your taxes you're already paying for them through your monthly health insurance bill.

One last thing...Omaba "indoctrinating" our children? seriously? You leave your kids in the hands of teachers you don't know, and probably never will, for 7 hours a day, 6 months a year for 12+ years and you're more worried about what the President of the United States has to say to them in a 30 minute speech than you are about what their teachers may say to them over the course of 12 years?....hmmm...interesting...someone's been indoctrinated alright, and i don't think it's our children.
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One last thing...Omaba "indoctrinating" our children? seriously? You leave your kids in the hands of teachers you don't know, and probably never will, for 7 hours a day, 6 months a year for 12+ years and you're more worried about what the President of the United States has to say to them in a 30 minute speech than you are about what their teachers may say to them over the course of 12 years?....hmmm...interesting...someone's been indoctrinated alright, and i don't think it's our children.
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Obama knows he cannot sway a whole country in 4 years, so he targets future generations...it is a very well known political tactic around the world. And tell me levy, do YOU have a clue what will happen in 20 years? And the hippocratic oath states that money should never be an option. Survival of the fittest is how the world has been and always will be, and no one is going to change that, and when you fuck with nature, only negative consequences ensue.

I work in a society where ALL the doctors work for the government. I broke six ribs and punctured a lung a year ago, and i had to WAIT in the ER because it was so fucking full of people that were late for walk-ins, wanted a sick slip, or wanted to skate from work, and the ER was the only place you were allowed to go for all that shit.

If you for ONE second believe that a government run health care is going to change the economy or what not, think again. The government has to get money somehow, so for every person that goes and gets their government healthcare 6 times a week because they "dont feel good", that is 6 trips that we the taxpayers will have to pay for...

I hope your starting to see my point a little bit.

Socialist societies DO NOT WORK. It has been proven in the past and that fact stands.
am i missing something here....... oh yeah a solid argument thats right...... this reads like a horoscope......and what is your point exactly????
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I still want to see a true birth certificate
It IS a true birth certificate. Just an abbreviated one.. not the full one. It's the same one I have. It's still a legal document. And still completely valid.

They HAVE to certify these things. A president cannot be elected without proper documentation.
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dum duM DUM


ERs work on a triage basis NOT first come fist serve.

and the birth certificate shit is beyond stupid.
yes maybe ER's in the civilian world.. but not government run ER's... shit they arent even called ER's they are called "acute care"...
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and with all the proof ive given im just making my point that obama is indeed a socialist...and socialism is BAD

you really have no argument if your trying to argue against that
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Wait...you broke 6 ribs and punctured a lung. Do you know what happens to someone that breaks six ribs and punctures a lung in a "survival of the fittest" scenario? They get eaten by the next animal than can outrun their gimpy, lame ass.

And on another note...i'm uninsured. If i ended up breaking six ribs and puncturing a lung i'd either be dead from asphyxiation or i'd be broke for 20 years while i paid off my medical bills. Hmmm...waiting in an ER for 2 hours while in agonizing pain or living in poverty for the next 20 years...tough choice.



Guess what...people already go to the ER/urgent care 6 times a week because they "don't feel good" or they want to "skate" from work. While you may not be paying for those trips through your taxes you're already paying for them through your monthly health insurance bill.

One last thing...Omaba "indoctrinating" our children? seriously? You leave your kids in the hands of teachers you don't know, and probably never will, for 7 hours a day, 6 months a year for 12+ years and you're more worried about what the President of the United States has to say to them in a 30 minute speech than you are about what their teachers may say to them over the course of 12 years?....hmmm...interesting...someone's been indoctrinated alright, and i don't think it's our children.



and after all this all i got to say is FUCK THE SYSTEM
obama isnt influencing SHIT on me, and neither are any of the teachers i had when i was in school.
its just trendy for kids in high school to walk around with obama shirts on
they dont know shit
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and after all this all i got to say is FUCK THE SYSTEM
obama isnt influencing SHIT on me, and neither are any of the teachers i had when i was in school.
its just trendy for kids in high school to walk around with obama shirts on
they dont know shit
A very ignorant comment from someone that can attribute every freedom you have at school to wear whatever the hell you want to democracy.

Obama probably isn't influencing shit on you because you dont have any idea what he's about.

And the kids walking around with obama shirts probably voted for him and are trying to make a statement even though yes you are correct they dont have the least idea what he is about.

But as I said, high school kids usually dont have any idea wtf is going on with politics no matter which side they choose.
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say what you will about the tenants of socialism; at least its an ethos.
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eh you all think what you want.. send your kids to school tuesday for the socialist indoctrination...
Seriouisly? Parents can read the message online and decide if they want their children to hear the message. Its supposed to be about hard work and staying in school to be a productive member of soceity. So every motivational speaker I heard in school was initiating me into socialism? Well shoot...hand me my hammer and cicle.
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I know it's hard to trust a president after Bush fucked us for 8 years (and really more). But let's not be paranoid people. Obama seems like an honestly good guy with good intentions for our country. He's probably the most intelligent president we've had in our lifetime. And yet the right continues to smear and demonize him. I hope they are happy being sore losers.

Almost all of those bullet points are BS btw. They don't prove Obama is a socialist.... and I would rather have a president that is well informed on all political ideas and tolerant of them than ignorant of them.

And to be quite frank... Obama is probably the first president in recent history to actually TRY AND FOLLOW THROUGH ON WHAT HE CAMPAIGNED FOR. Every major thing he has tried to do .. stimulus.. shore up banking system.. healthcare reform... tax rich more than poor... etc..etc.. THAT'S WHAT THE MAJORITY FREAKIN VOTED FOR. The right lost. Sorry. Move on and try again in 4 years.
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Seriouisly? Parents can read the message online and decide if they want their children to hear the message. Its supposed to be about hard work and staying in school to be a productive member of soceity. So every motivational speaker I heard in school was initiating me into socialism? Well shoot...hand me my hammer and cicle.
There IS propaganda going on here.. but it's not coming from Obama..
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Im friends with dictator bob and I dont disagree with all his politics. . Does that make me a secret libertarian?

are fiscally conservative democrats really secret republicans?

are socially liberal republicans really secret democrats?

Ronald Reagan worked hand in hand with Mikhail Gorbechev (sp?) to bring diplomatic relations with the USSR to levels undreamed of. Does that make him a secret commie?

President Obama has had meetings with Bush and Cheney. So obviously hes not only a socialist, but a Republican as well.

OP only says that Obama knows socialists and that he doesnt hate them. That doesnt make him a socialist himself. Just because you dont follow the hardcore party line stance of whatever political organization subscribe to does not make you one of "the enemy". One can agree with another party, or disagree with their own party, on issues, that doesnt mean they arent true to their "side".

If Obama has proven anything in his short time in office, its that he's not a party line president, and that he is willing to bend over backwards to produce bi-partisan policy on extremely important issues that he feels are required to get our country back on track. As a supporter of Obama, Im not afraid to admit that I havent liked his course of action on everything, but I certainly dont think he's a bad president, and so far he's been far from a failure.

No matter what side of the fence you're on, you feel the other side is beholden to their entitlements. The republicans complain the the democrats feel entitled to their social programs, and the democrats complain that the republicans feel entitled to their greed. You're never going to see eye to eye with anyone about everything, so where does that leave us? Patriotism is about working with everyone, regardless of political affliation, race, color, creed, sexuality, etc... to make our country a better place. It isnt about "I'm right and you're wrong, go fuck yourself". Hardline political stubborness and baseless propaganda do more to destroy this country than obama, bush, clinton, bush, reagan, carter, or nixon ever could by themselves.

As ive quoted before, I shall quote again:

It's time for americans to start being patriotic about something other than war.
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I know it's hard to trust a president after Bush fucked us for 8 years (and really more). But let's not be paranoid people. Obama seems like an honestly good guy with good intentions for our country. He's probably the most intelligent president we've had in our lifetime. And yet the right continues to smear and demonize him. I hope they are happy being sore losers.

Almost all of those bullet points are BS btw. They don't prove Obama is a socialist.... and I would rather have a president that is well informed on all political ideas and tolerant of them than ignorant of them.

And to be quite frank... Obama is probably the first president in recent history to actually TRY AND FOLLOW THROUGH ON WHAT HE CAMPAIGNED FOR. Every major thing he has tried to do .. stimulus.. shore up banking system.. healthcare reform... tax rich more than poor... etc..etc.. THAT'S WHAT THE MAJORITY FREAKIN VOTED FOR. The right lost. Sorry. Move on and try again in 4 years.
the only thing good about Obama is that he believes NCAA football should have playoffs, not rankings..
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There IS propaganda going on here.. but it's not coming from Obama..
Tell me why you support giving multi-million dollar bonuses to executives and bombing little kids again? The majority did not vote for that. The majority didn't ask to have tens of trillions of dollars pumped into a system that should never have been allowed. They never voted for inflation to rob them of what little savings they hold. They never voted to continue Bush's war policies to the fucking LETTER (prove me wrong). They never voted to have big pharma and the insurance cartels write legislation guaranteeing themselves a secure place in their profits for generations to come.

And the majority is pissed, whether or not they do not understand how they are getting fucked like the retarded republicans or those bitter democrats who just expected more from the puppet in the pretty suit with the nice smile.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/z...31/254617.html

This is NOT what the majority wants. It's what the desperate voted for to get fucktard out of office, and now that they are getting fucked again they can at least sense it.
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Tell me why you support giving multi-million dollar bonuses to executives and bombing little kids again? The majority did not vote for that. The majority didn't ask to have tens of trillions of dollars pumped into a system that should never have been allowed. They never voted for inflation to rob them of what little savings they hold. They never voted to continue Bush's war policies to the fucking LETTER (prove me wrong). They never voted to have big pharma and the insurance cartels write legislation guaranteeing themselves a secure place in their profits for generations to come.

And the majority is pissed, whether or not they do not understand how they are getting fucked like the retarded republicans or those bitter democrats who just expected more from the puppet in the pretty suit with the nice smile.

Zogby: Obama Approval Plummets to 42 Percent

This is NOT what the majority wants. It's what the desperate voted for to get fucktard out of office, and now that they are getting fucked again they can at least sense it.



Is This The Change You Voted For?


Oh yeah... you asked how the stimulus failed....

Well,

1st - Obama said he wouldn't sign anything with pork in it... This bill had tons of it and he signed it.
2nd - They said that with this plan unemplyment would not rise higher than 8%... It went to almost 10%

It failed... Obama's office has already admitted to that... "We didn't realize it was that bad" -Joe Biden

Then they start talking that they need another one because the first one didn't work...

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This right here.....

Ok so Princess Palossi and her goons bailed out the people that lent money to those that couldn't afford it... My wife works in realestate and showed me a memo from Citybank that basicly authorized the same lending style that fucked everything up in the first place.... She lost her job when this crap happened and I lost mine the day after this idiot was elected...

They bailed them out but never changed anything to stop them from doing it again...
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Tell me why you support giving multi-million dollar bonuses to executives and bombing little kids again? The majority did not vote for that. The majority didn't ask to have tens of trillions of dollars pumped into a system that should never have been allowed. They never voted for inflation to rob them of what little savings they hold. They never voted to continue Bush's war policies to the fucking LETTER (prove me wrong). They never voted to have big pharma and the insurance cartels write legislation guaranteeing themselves a secure place in their profits for generations to come.

And the majority is pissed, whether or not they do not understand how they are getting fucked like the retarded republicans or those bitter democrats who just expected more from the puppet in the pretty suit with the nice smile.

Zogby: Obama Approval Plummets to 42 Percent

This is NOT what the majority wants. It's what the desperate voted for to get fucktard out of office, and now that they are getting fucked again they can at least sense it.
Obama said he would start an exit plan and have combat troops out of Iraq within a year or 2.. but would still listen to military experts and adjust his plan accordingly. How is he not doing this?
Obama said he would focus his attention on Afghanistan and finally win the war. How is he not working towards this?
Where are you getting tens of trillions of dollars from? And he DID say he would do everything he could to stop the banks from collapsing.. instead of idly standing by.. which he did. He is also working on adding regulation to stop this sort of thing from happening again.
There is no inflation currently. If anything there is deflation. Weather or not there will be inflation will depend on how they handle the recovery so I'm sorry but you can't hold that against him since it hasn't happened yet. Just because YOU and others FEEL it will happen.. doesn't mean it will. And even if it does.. it doesn't mean it will be out of control. OR that it wasn't unavoidable. Personally i'd prefer to deal with some inflation after this than a depression currently. Which very well could have happened.
And Obama is fighting the insurance companies. Haven't you been paying attention?
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Oh yeah... you asked how the stimulus failed....

Well,

1st - Obama said he wouldn't sign anything with pork in it... This bill had tons of it and he signed it.
2nd - They said that with this plan unemplyment would not rise higher than 8%... It went to almost 10%

It failed... Obama's office has already admitted to that... "We didn't realize it was that bad" -Joe Biden

Then they start talking that they need another one because the first one didn't work...
It hasn't failed. And you have not shown how it has.
Where did he say it wouldn't reach 8%. All I remember him saying is how it would save or create X amount of jobs. No one knew how bad unemployment would get. And god knows how much more worse it would be.

PS.. you DO know that most of the stimulus money hasn't been spent yet right? AS PLANNED. So there's no way to judge it yet. Wait until the money has actually been spent before you start calling it a failure.

..and the pork thing was McCain if I'm not mistaken..
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This right here.....

Ok so Princess Palossi and her goons bailed out the people that lent money to those that couldn't afford it... My wife works in realestate and showed me a memo from Citybank that basicly authorized the same lending style that fucked everything up in the first place.... She lost her job when this crap happened and I lost mine the day after this idiot was elected...

They bailed them out but never changed anything to stop them from doing it again...
I hope you are enjoying the extended unemployment benefits that Obama set up for you..


..btw you do know that the whole real estate collapse happened before Obama was elected right?
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..btw you do know that the whole real estate collapse happened before Obama was elected right?

Yes, we know... It wasn't him that did that... It started with Clinton.

Congress was warned about it in 2005, The democrats ignored it and so did some republicans.
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Why is socialism bad again? I mean, socialism done right, how is it bad again?
Cuba... Russia.... China....

They have socialism....

Name a place where it has been done right....

Socialism is only a few steps away from a dictatorship...
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Any President would have done that and I am not on my extention yet... Went back and was laid of again durring the summer.
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Cuba... Russia.... China....

They have socialism....

Name a place where it has been done right....

Socialism is only a few steps away from a dictatorship...
England, Canada, France, most of the rest of Europe, Japan have socialized medicine.

We have socialism. Our police, firefighters, and highway system are socialized.

China owns over 1trillion of our money. Their system seems to be working right if they can outright buy our economy.
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Yes, we know... It wasn't him that did that... It started with Clinton.

Congress was warned about it in 2005, The democrats ignored it and so did some republicans.
Blame can honestly be put on both parties. But not OBAMA specifically. Or Clinton for that matter. Bush was PRESIDENT when it happened. Wouldn't you think if blame had to be placed on one person it would be the person WHO WAS IN CHARGE LEADING UP TO AND DURING THE COLLAPSE? Not the president who is left picking up the pieces?
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PBS came in last
hopefully you were screaming for impeachment for the last president as well. this president has not broken any laws.

i hope also that you are giving credit to obama for turning around the economy.
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i hope also that you are giving credit to obama for turning around the economy.
I was screaming 4 bush to go as well, in fact i was doing it b4 it was cool!

The issues i am most concerned with r the potential inflation, the tarp<yeah i know bush started but somebody else continued it> , the stimulus<who the hell considers a Frisbee golf field to be infrastructure, especially when we have power lines that need to be buried to avoid fires>, the cult of personality, socialized health care<as a means to further keep tabs on the population and control the distribution of resources>, the census<and consequent redistricting>, the sale of a candidate to the population as center-left<and then his subsequent shift to far left>, the strong arming and intimidation of auto industry creditors<and the delivery of control over that means of production to the workers who were to be honest getting paid to much.>, the medias suppression of the story that over 2 million people marching on Washington<and their reduction of the oppositions position to racism>, His appointment of a racist supreme court judge, his lies about fighting 4 da gay community, his lies about not pushing federal law on cannabis in states where it has some measure of legality, HIS department of homeland security labeling a huge list of American citizens who don't share his views as possible terror threats<opening that patriot act up 2 watch the religious, returning veterans, THIRD PARTY SUPPORTERS, and those who value state authority over federal authority!> I have more but need to take my blood pressure meds.

and anyone who says it is because he is black is guilty of a straw man fallacy.
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